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post #1 of 36 Old 11-08-2016, 08:48 AM Thread Starter
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2018 790 in-line 2 scalpel yo! I'm starting to save my pennies today!
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Some piccies / details here:

KTM 125 and 390 Dukes updated | Visordown

New: Powerful single cylinder, 4-stroke, 373.2 cc DOHC engine, electronic fuel injection, 3-way catalytic converter and balancer shaft, slipper clutch and now with ride by wire
- New: Max. output: 32 kW (44 hp), emissions now Euro 4
- New: Ultralight trellis frame now with bolt-on rear subframe, extremely lightweight die-cast aluminum swingarm
- New: Top quality 43 mm open-cartridge front forks by WP Suspension
- New: Powerful brake system developed in cooperation with Brembo now with larger, 320 mm front brake disc
- New: LED headlight and LED daytime running lights
- New: Multifunctional dashboard with color TFT display
- New: Optional KTM MY RIDE (hands-free kit
and audio player)
- New: Adjustable hand levers
- New: Larger steel tank (13.4 l) and new bodywork
- New: Revised rider and passenger seats
- New: Side-mounted exhaust system
- Optional power restriction for A2 license
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Some piccies (that rear mudguard looks bigger than ever !):

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I like most things about it, however 22 pounds heavier is significant with no hp gains.
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One interesting feature of the 790 Duke prototype is the built-in pillion bun warmer, visible in the overhead photos. There are multiple air vents to ensure that the passenger's derriere will remain toasty throughout the ride. Much simpler than an electric seat heater. Not sure how well this feature will play in hot weather countries like India, however.

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There must be something else. What's the point of having ride by wire without ride modes? I'm liking it anyway.
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The manual lists weight of the current Duke 390 as 142 kg/313 lbs (dry). The 2017 model is reportedly 149 kg/328 lbs dry. The weight gain is thus about 7 kg/15 lbs. Very regrettable. Some of the difference is likely due to the new, 13.4 liter steel fuel tank. The more complex, adjustable-damping forks are probably heavier as well.

With power remaining about the same as previously, but weight increasing, the 2017 Duke will have a less favorable power-to-weight ratio than earlier models, as well as poorer agility. Not really what you want to hear about a new, "improved" model. There are some advances, undoubtedly, but the weight gain negates many of the benefits of the revisions. The new, side-mounted, generic exhaust cannister also is decidedly a step backwards from its predecessor.
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Quite like it especially the back end , larger capacity tank , radiator modified by the looks of it . Not sure about the headlight . That 790 however is something else .

David , my mechanic is at the EICMA today and tomorrow : I have asked him to take plenty of pictures of the new 390 and the scalpel
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I think it looks pretty good, certainly the updated frame.

Higher seat height would be problem for me though, it's up 30mm, as is the weight as mentioned earlier.

Only other bonus I guess is increased fuel capacity and the ride-by-wire, if it does allow modes...

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The manual lists weight of the current Duke 390 as 142 kg/313 lbs (dry). The 2017 model is reportedly 149 kg/328 lbs dry. The weight gain is thus about 7 kg/15 lbs. Very regrettable. Some of the difference is likely due to the new, 13.4 liter steel fuel tank. The more complex, adjustable-damping forks are probably heavier as well.

With power remaining about the same as previously, but weight increasing, the 2017 Duke will have a less favorable power-to-weight ratio than earlier models, as well as poorer agility. Not really what you want to hear about a new, "improved" model. There are some advances, undoubtedly, but the weight gain negates many of the benefits of the revisions. The new, side-mounted, generic exhaust cannister also is decidedly a step backwards from its predecessor.
According to KTM, the 2016 is 139 kg and the 2017 is 149 kg, that's a 10kg, 22lb difference.
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