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post #1 of 43 Old 05-19-2015, 06:28 AM Thread Starter
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Brake Pad Upgrade

I installed new EBC front brake pads (FA 606 HH) last night. Remarkably easy to change pads on the ByBre caliper, much simpler than changing pads on the Brembo calipers of my Guzzis. The whole operation took about 20 minutes, including pushing the pistons fully back into the bores so the new pads would fit in. Then a few pumps of the lever and the pads are seated on the rotor (which I again cleaned ahead of time.)

The OE pads have a dark friction material and are stamped on the back as follows if anyone can identify them:
RD8173MMM
07.W003.10
1 4M260 1

If it stops raining here today I will be bedding-in the new pads. Will report impressions. I think they should have a considerably sharper bite than OE.

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I think there's quite a few people very interested in the answer to this.


I'm happy enough with my 15... but, better brakes for little money could always make me happier.
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First Outing. Just back from an hour-long bedding-in exercise. The EBC pads are, just as I had anticipated, a significant upgrade. The first time I touched the brake lever, the totally-unbedded HH pads were stronger than the bedded-in OE pads. I took advantage of a break in the clouds and (temporarily) drying roads see what the new pads bring to the table: A lot. I did about 20 hard stops, decelerating from 50 MPH to 20 (or less) using front brake only, as per EBC recommendations. The copper-colored HH pads are clearly harder than the dark OE pads, and will require a much longer bedding -in process. Today was a start.

With each hard stop, the front brake felt a little stronger than the previous stop. On most of the stops I could feel the ABS intervening as the tire began to squeal. The sticky Diablo tire produces excellent stopping traction. Although I am certain that these pads are far from definitively bedded-in, by the end of this session I had a front brake that responds instantly, powerfully and linearly to lever input. Much more incisive than the quite-OK-but-much-gentler OE pads. As New Englanders would say, the HH pads are "wicked strong". The front brake is already substantially stronger, more decisive and confidence-inspiring than with the already pretty good OE pads. This happy situation can only improve as the pads continue to bed in. It takes far less lever effort to produce that same deceleration as before. Pete's abused finger would like this!

In short, I am very pleased, and believe the EBC HH pads are a highly worthwhile upgrade. It needs to be said, however, that the stock pads are quite adequate and no one should feel compelled to upgrade. But the HH pads are definitely in a different league, and their best is yet to come. To paraphrase the old BrylCreme hair dressing commercial: "A little jab will do ya."

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That's great news Diplo, may go that route myself then. Where did you find the part nr mapping for the front pads? (As in which part nr is required for the 390). I will need to do the same for the rears - any idea which EBC part nr I'll need?

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Ah - think I have it:

Front brake - FA606HH
Rear brake - FA213HH


Anyone know if I have the rear correct?
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That's the front brake pad I have,

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That's the front brake pad I have,
Where did you get them from? - I can source the rears on Amazon no less, but so far have only found the EBC FA 606 HH on EU sites.

The front can wait until I'm over there next I suppose since my problem is with the rears.
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I found them here:

KTM Store :: KTM Street Powerparts :: 390 DUKE :: Brakes :: PERFORMANCE BRAKE PADS FOR KTM 390 BY EBC FA606HH
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Ah - think I have it:

Front brake - FA606HH
Rear brake - FA213HH


Anyone know if I have the rear correct?
Correct.
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Thanks! I have to go to the dealer to pick up a few things at the end of the month, I'll order a set! Ordered the rears on Amazon so I'll probably see if they improve things over the weekend.

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